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Dec 29, 2012 @ 04:16:24
just one more "right in front of you".
Jan 01, 2013 @ 01:13:48
It only makes sense. Up until recently, I lived in a part of the country where the sun shines 300+ days a year and where there are some solar fields already. The local power company whined like a spoiled debutante at the mere mention of building more and the one new privately-owned field going in will now benefit another state because said power company didn't want to participate in implementation. How stupid is that?
Jan 02, 2013 @ 05:50:06
one woudl think the USA is a smart Country…. huh?
Jan 02, 2013 @ 22:29:24
Even half those subsidies would make a huge dent in meeting our domestic climate challenges while spurring job creation in a growth sector. Reason and stats says it's a no brainer… but, then again, we know there are some out there that don't listen to reason – ahem – anyone got any TEA?
Jan 05, 2013 @ 21:57:16
The graphs and charts are very misleading. Solar power already receives over 50 times the level of subsidies of fossil fuels.
Jan 06, 2013 @ 13:03:17
The first chart shows that fossil fuels get 72 times the subsidies that solar gets. Did you miss that? Or do you dispute it?
Jan 06, 2013 @ 18:14:19
joel, are you saying that all these noises about subsidies for conventional energy is misleading??? then how come there's so many noises??
Jan 10, 2013 @ 01:49:17
I dispute it. Does the graph mean that the total dollar value of so-called "subsidies" to the oil and gas industry is 72 times higher than that provided to the renewables industry? If that's the case, it's a non-sequitur as the oil industry is HUGE and a tiny write-off would be worth tens of millions of dollars.
If the chart's meaning is that the specific subsidies percentages is 72% higher for fossil fuels than for solar, then it's a complete fabrication.
In either case, the statistics are at best midleading, and at minimum, a complete lie.
Jan 10, 2013 @ 01:51:03
Sandeep Anirudhan The reason that there are so many "noises" is that the folks making them are misinformed, uninformed or lemmings.
Jan 10, 2013 @ 10:39:59
hmmm…. and how bout this? http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2013/01/big-oil-tax-subsidy-fiscal-cliff
Jan 29, 2013 @ 13:48:31
Hey Joel, why are we subsidizing an industry that is the most profitable than anything else in America? The pie graph is to highlight how much of a break we give to fossil fuels (who don't need it) and how little we give to solar (who needs incentives for the time being, but all new technologies need a push – even the internet needed help to start and people said it wouldn't go anywhere) Stop squewing the argument – why are we subsidizing fossil fuels?
Jan 09, 2013 @ 22:17:51
Lets look at the subsidies per energy provided (kWh): Oil…$.0066/kWh, Wind…$.056/kWh, Solar…$.728/kWh. The Solar subsidy is 85 times larger than Oil!
Jan 22, 2013 @ 00:57:07
Correct. This helpfully clarifies the point Joel Keller tried to make earlier.